• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    That Americans have to pay to survive in any capacity- food, healthcare, shelter… it’s the sign of a sick society. My daughter asked me why we have to pay a bill to get water in and sewage out of our house instead of just have that be a government thing. She’s only 13 and even she realizes capitalism is fucked up.

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      1 year ago

      And if you start shitting in a bucket and pouring it outside they will arrest you.

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        That’s not empirically true. I pay for water as a flat rate in Quebec as part of my municipal taxes, as do all of my neighbors, and I don’t see people engaging in flagrant water wastage. Lawns routinely go yellow during the hottest parts of the summer, I rarely see people washing their cars, and low flush toilets are getting increasingly common.

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            Ok. The EPA estimates that the average American uses 82 gallons a day as of 2015, which comes out to 310L.

            EPA link

            By contrast, McGill University cites that the average Canadian uses around 329L a day.

            McGill water usage page

            Montreal, specifically as an unmetered water city, estimates 327L a day.

            City of Montreal annual water usage report

            I’ll grant you that Montreal does seem to have slightly higher usage per capita. But I’m not sure the extra pain in the ass of managing water meter infrastructure would be meaningful to reduce water usage to be in line with metered locations, when we’re talking about a difference of 17L a day.

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          A public utility handles mine and yet it still costs money. Odd.

          Maybe this 13 year-old isn’t the oracle I initially suspected

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        Lots of 13 year olds are dumb, doubly so if their parents are dumb, and think “capitalism is when things cost money”

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          You’re right. It is dumb to not understand the difference between privatized services and government services…