“I’m fine with Asians, but Russians are Asians. They have a completely different culture, vision. Our key difference from them is humanity.”

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    Tbf they last posted before I responded, probably havent seen it yet. Still, based on their behavior in the rest of the thread, I’m expecting either silence or some insane goalpost shift

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      What he said was that Russians aren’t like Ukrainians. More Asian than Ukrainians are and that they think differently.

      Context is important and your poorly translated version is NOT what he’s saying. He’s not saying all Asians are subhuman- he’s saying they have a different past and are influenced by it. He’s saying Russians are more violent based on where they come from and the past they’ve had. This is something he hadn’t counted on etc… etc… etc… since this is just a clip I don’t know where he was going with it. But it sounds more like he saying ukrainian military is more humane with regards to how they treat people than the russians.

      MY point is that you and your type will just say a thing based purely on propaganda.

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        You and your type

        When your worldview has no fascist undertones baked into it whatsoever and you’re definitely the good guys

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          It might be considered racist a bit. I don’t know because I don’t have the full video so not sure where he was headed with it. As I mentioned it seemed like he was setting up to compare how Russian military is treating people less humanely than the ukrainian military.

          What he’s definite NOT saying is Asians are subhuman and Russians are Asians and therefore also subhuman.

          It’s kind of why I said my initial comment- “oh russophobia isn’t real” is a propaganda technique to try to spread the thoughts that people just hate Russians for Russians sake- when if I take an equally touted stance of all Ukrainians are nazis as being equally ridiculous.

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        What he said was that Russians aren’t like Ukrainians. More Asian than Ukrainians are and that they think differently.

        What the fuck this is a Nazi talking point holy shit.

        I don’t know how bad that Nazi problem is in Ukraine, but that motherfucker is a Nazi

        Stop defending him. What’s wrong with you?

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          ? Not sure how you came to that conclusion. Asian cultures in general have a different outlook on things than say… European or American or African. That’s not really a nazi talking point and that you have decided it is really is more of a you problem

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            Categorizing the world into “European” and “Asiatic” is Nazi shit. Lumping Indians and Arabs and Chinese and Russians all together as one big Asian blob is just racist.

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              It’s not… I also mentioned Americans and African. All of these are continents full of different people from different races and countries. That you think any one of then is special and is an exception to this is more racist…

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                Continents aren’t real

                We made them up! Eurasia should actually be a single continent, there’s no logical basis for dividing Europe off from Asia other than racism.

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                  Well… that certainly answers a lot of questions about how you’ve come to the conclusions you have.

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                    If liberals didn’t have meaningless smug platitudes with no substance, they would have nothing whatsoever with which to drown out their denial.

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                    Well there sure as shit isn’t an “Asian culture” is there? What the hell would that even mean?

                    Like I said, lumping Indians and Arabs and Chinese and Russians all together as one big “Asian” blob has no basis in cultural reality. To then go farther and to say that Russians are more like Indians/Arabs/Chinese than they are like Ukrainians is simply incoherent.

                    Christianity came from Asia. Israel is an Asian country. Think about that for a second.

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          I’m claiming to be able to understand enough plus have a Russian speaking partner to back me.up

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            btw I just want you to know that even your supposed different translation is insane,

            More Asian than Ukrainians …

            … He’s saying Russians are more violent based on where they come from and the past they’ve had

            Wtf does being “more Asian” mean? This is in the same vein as the nazi “asiatic hordes” bullshit

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              I really don’t know where he was going with it. I admit it was probably poorly worded but it definitely wasn’t what you guys are trying to paint it as. I can speculate-as I’ve already done.

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                I know where he’s going with it, he’s dehumanizing them, there’s no other reason to paint them as “more Asian” it’s literally a fucking Nazi dog whistle that Russians are barbaric Asians

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                  Yeah again. Thanks for making my point. You guys just keep drinking russia one

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                    The only people on Earth that care about the “”“important”“” question of whether Russians are or are not white European are Nazis.