• SteveXVII@pawb.social
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    8 months ago

    Ukraine has managed to do a lot in this war: they have repelled Russia’s attack on Kyiv, despite expectations and even pulled of two succesful counteroffensives. (I am talking about Charkiw and Kherson.) I know Ukraine is in a bad spot but that doesn’t mean that it’s over for them.

    If they don’t want to negotiate and would rather fight, then why should we tell them they shouldn’t and instead should negotiate with the agressor? And why should we believe that Russia won’t violate such a deal? Their track-record isn’t great in this regard.

    Wikipedia says that the Ukrainian armed forces consists of 1000000 armed personell. Compared to Russia’s 1320000. I don’t know the relevancy of this, but hey, I answered your question, now you answer mine.

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      8 months ago

      And all those victories came at a cost and that cost being that their average soldier is in their 40s, and they had to increase their draft. We never know for certain the outcome of a peace deal, but reason russia invaded is well known, and if the west had not gotten involved in the situation the war would have never started, and they dont actually want to invade Ukraine.

      My question was not how big their armies are, it was how many people are CONSCIRPTED in their army? Meaning how many war slaves are they using?

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        8 months ago

        Victories coming at a cost is not something new and info on how severe they are is hard to come by due to the fog of war. So unless you have a decent source, this point is kind of useless.

        What good reason does Russia have for it’s full scale invasion?

        And next: I don’t know why I should be the one looking up how many conscripts Ukraine has when it is your argument. Why don’t you look it up yourself?

        And what should the west do to protect themselves form Russian aggression in your eyes? If this is not the right way to do it.

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          8 months ago

          Would you rather get conscripted as a Ukrainian defending against Russia or get conscripted as a Russian to invade Poland?

          That’s the choice Ukrainians are facing.