Try it for a year, and I would love to see many new projects get funded. This is why I don’t mind Toronto building lots more transit over SOGR, once a network is established, congestion pricing can be tried all over North America to solve the perennial “how do we get transit to break even” complaint
Sure they do, so long as they have provided adequate alternatives like rail or other transit for people to use instead.
Cities shoild be built for people. If you want to pollute the city with your car, waste space parking it somehwhere all day, and participate in one of the most dangerous forms of transportation, then there should be a fee associated with that to cover the costs of maintaining the infrastructure, pay for the parking, and contribute some money to healthcare to cover pollution health impacts/injuries from roadways.
That fee already exists on the property and car sales that’s taxed. More taxes won’t fix any issues we face, itll just line the pockets of useless beaurucrats.
Why don’t the feds acc invest in proper subway lines instead of forcing them into two crowded lines, and refused to add more for 25 fkijg years.
You say Tax them more to reduce cost of living, I say give them good alternative options but let the people choose.
You also forget how much $$ these 905ers bring into the dt core. Scaring them off w taxes will hurt local business more so than anything.
I can understand the initial hesitation to more and more fees. If you’ve ever tried getting out from Front Street at 5pm on a weekday you’d wish for something like that.
Thing is that everyone inside and outside cars effectively subsidize the externalities of traffic. Everyone’s wasted time, wasted gas money, health effects of breathing car emissions, noise, so on and so forth. Don’t forget that every car on the road is being subsidized by taxpayers from road maintenance, gas tax subsidies, parking facilities in the suburbs, service delivery and upkeep to the far suburbs, so on and so forth.
I agree that Toronto’s network is not quite as good as New York to really justify such a toll at this very moment but within 10 years I think it will be, and if it shows early signs of success then I think many cities around both Canada and the US will be quick to adopt it.
I understand and agree w ur statements abt torknto traffic - I go uoft and frequently have to commute dt.
But the truth is adding more tax will just line the pocket of useless beaurucrats. I doubt the money will be spent efficiently, as governments are known to be extremely tardy.
But the alternatives are garbage. The subway system is overloaded and there’s been no investment for almost 25 years. The go train network is nice for 15 years ago, but not so much now. And even current investment is a prime example of beaurucratic inefficiency
More tax will also just lower the standard of living. Toronto is already expensive, and making it more expensive to “fix” the problem thay THEY created is like going back to an abusive husband, promising to be a better wife.
Try it for a year, and I would love to see many new projects get funded. This is why I don’t mind Toronto building lots more transit over SOGR, once a network is established, congestion pricing can be tried all over North America to solve the perennial “how do we get transit to break even” complaint
Fuck no toronto does not need another tax on people driving in.
Sure they do, so long as they have provided adequate alternatives like rail or other transit for people to use instead.
Cities shoild be built for people. If you want to pollute the city with your car, waste space parking it somehwhere all day, and participate in one of the most dangerous forms of transportation, then there should be a fee associated with that to cover the costs of maintaining the infrastructure, pay for the parking, and contribute some money to healthcare to cover pollution health impacts/injuries from roadways.
That fee already exists on the property and car sales that’s taxed. More taxes won’t fix any issues we face, itll just line the pockets of useless beaurucrats.
Why don’t the feds acc invest in proper subway lines instead of forcing them into two crowded lines, and refused to add more for 25 fkijg years.
You say Tax them more to reduce cost of living, I say give them good alternative options but let the people choose. You also forget how much $$ these 905ers bring into the dt core. Scaring them off w taxes will hurt local business more so than anything.
I can understand the initial hesitation to more and more fees. If you’ve ever tried getting out from Front Street at 5pm on a weekday you’d wish for something like that.
Thing is that everyone inside and outside cars effectively subsidize the externalities of traffic. Everyone’s wasted time, wasted gas money, health effects of breathing car emissions, noise, so on and so forth. Don’t forget that every car on the road is being subsidized by taxpayers from road maintenance, gas tax subsidies, parking facilities in the suburbs, service delivery and upkeep to the far suburbs, so on and so forth.
I agree that Toronto’s network is not quite as good as New York to really justify such a toll at this very moment but within 10 years I think it will be, and if it shows early signs of success then I think many cities around both Canada and the US will be quick to adopt it.
I understand and agree w ur statements abt torknto traffic - I go uoft and frequently have to commute dt.
But the truth is adding more tax will just line the pocket of useless beaurucrats. I doubt the money will be spent efficiently, as governments are known to be extremely tardy.
But the alternatives are garbage. The subway system is overloaded and there’s been no investment for almost 25 years. The go train network is nice for 15 years ago, but not so much now. And even current investment is a prime example of beaurucratic inefficiency
More tax will also just lower the standard of living. Toronto is already expensive, and making it more expensive to “fix” the problem thay THEY created is like going back to an abusive husband, promising to be a better wife.