• Wyoming Area: 253,335 km2

  • United Kingdom area: 244,376 km2

  • Wyoming population: 576,851 (2020)

  • Glasgow urban area population: 632,350 (2020)

    • vladmech@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Disproportionate representation can be kind of a bummer for the under represented folks. Get rid of the senate and remove the cap on the house!

      • unalivejoy@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago

        Sadly that will never happen (peacefully) because the smaller states would never vote to reduce their own power. That’s not even considering it would require a constitutional amendment, which is notoriously hard to pass.

        • the_artic_one@programming.dev
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          9 months ago

          The Senate was the solution, the house is meant to be population based but they ran out of space in the chamber and capped it instead of just building a bigger room so now Wyoming is massively overrepresented.

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                9 months ago

                Wyoming is massively overrepresented.

                You want less than one congressman per state or what? California has 40 or 50, there’s like 5 states with one congressman. Spare me the crocodile tears about you’re so under represented.

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                  9 months ago

                  They weren’t suggesting that there be less than one congressman in Wyoming. You seem to have entirely ignored the actual suggestion they were making, which seems difficult.

                  • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
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                    9 months ago

                    Nah. They were just crying because they think their team will have an easier time pushing someone else’s team around if certain states get even more congressmen

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              9 months ago

              And that one congressman represents 500k people, Meanwhile each of Florida’s represents 800k people. Why should the people of Florida’s votes be worth 60% of a Wyoming voter’s? Why should we not just give Florida 11 more congresspeople so it’s even?

        • jumjummy@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          Take a look at https://www.thegreenpapers.com/Census10/FedRep.phtml?sort=Elec#table

          California has 678,945 residents per elected representative versus Wyoming’s 284,150, meaning that Wyoming’s residents have an almost 3x voice. Wyoming is the most represented state by population ratio and California is last.

          As others have said, that’s what the senate was for, while the House should have a static ratio across all states with the count increasing by total national population.

          • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
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            9 months ago

            boo fucking hoo. they have 40 plus representatives, Wyoming is a big state. 2 senators and a congressman. Person could easily argue a Californians vote is worth much more, that state has a whole team going in the house. the ratio is basically static, except for states that no longer the population to get one. Like do you want Wyoming and north dakota to share a house member? That’s not practical either.

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldOP
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              Wyoming is a big state.

              In area, sure, but most of it is empty or populated by more cows than humans. You’re basically saying that empty land and cows deserve equal representation to humans.

              Person could easily argue a Californians vote is worth much more

              You could, but you’d be very very wrong. A third as much is not more.

              Like do you want Wyoming and north dakota to share a house member?

              Wouldn’t be any more stupid than the current situation 🤷

                • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldOP
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                  9 months ago

                  So where do you think I’m from?

                  By your own logic, I’d guess you’re from somewhere with more livestock than people and a severely underfunded education system.

      • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago

        Because they’re a territory and not a state.

        Whenever it comes up, they reject becoming a state - it’s not a beneficial change for them (I don’t blame them).

    • humorlessrepost@lemmy.world
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      My problem is that my vote has far less weight than someone in that state. Wasn’t that implied?

      Square miles of farmland shouldn’t have votes, people should.

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        It doesn’t. That’s just a soundbite. You’re not voting against a wyoming resident. Your vote has the sane power as your neighbours

      • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago

        Your vote for president has zero power outside of your state. Your vote informs your state’s electoral representative as to who to vote for.

        States elect a president as the leader of the executive branch, a federal role, which affects relationships between a federation of states. Federal government’s role is supposed to be limited to managing the relationships between states.

        It’s not a popular vote. Never has been, and would be inappropriate to make it so. Basic civics.

        There’s way too much attention paid to the office of president, when there are ~500 other federal politicians who are ignored by doing so.

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          I know how the system works. I’m not disputing it. I’m saying the status quo is bad, not that it’s false.

          It’s not a popular vote. Never has been, and would be inappropriate to make it so. Basic civics.

          Pointing out it’s “basic civics” that that’s how it works currently, and using that to sneak in the huge claim that it’s also “basic civics” that a popular vote “would be inappropriate”. If that was intentional, it was clever.

        • Match!!@pawb.social
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          The house of representatives is unjust in its uneven, disproportionate, and meager representation. Is that what you wanted to hear?