• shortwavesurfer
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 months ago

    So, Europe limiting people’s freedom, even more. Why am I not surprised? Use Monero and build the circular economy. Give the middle finger to these clowns. People in the US need to do the same thing because we are headed down the same path. That’s why I always suggest if you have Monero not turning it back into Fiat ever.

    • VolunTerry
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      9 months ago

      This is the proper response when faced with institutions that obviously despise freedom, and which are full of people who hope to stomp the flame of your individual sovereignty out.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      9 months ago

      Banning the use of ridiculously large cash payments doesn’t seem too bad imo.

      Honestly who (except criminals) regularly use large amounts of cash and especially in one purchase?

      In my country some of the huge luxury stores “had” (due to public pressure) to ban cash because the only ones that are buying luxury products using cash are criminals.

      • Mario@liberdon.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        9 months ago

        @lud @helenslunch Just because most idiots only use cards these days, it doesn’t mean that only criminals use large amounts of cash.

        I only use cash, to prevent the CBDC scams from ever implementing. I also use large amounts. Need to pay rent, buy a car, borrow money to family and friends etc

        • lud@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          9 months ago

          I will never get your crypto conspiracy theories.

  • gunnm
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    This is one of the best use cases of Monero.

  • tusker
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    “your MEP” is paid for and/or compromised and will do anything they are told by their owners, don’t waste your time. Put your energy towards building a world they cannot control with fake counterfeit money and threats of violence.

        • lud@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          And how do you propose we do that?

          Maybe we could have separate small territories with their own laws. We could call them countries.

          • Mario@liberdon.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            @lud decentralizing the financial system is basically the first step. Then slowly you decentralize most of the social system components: education, sick care, transport, food chain etc. At the end you replace the political law with natural law. Everything will be based on rights.

            • lud@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              9 months ago

              Yeah… Good luck, I guess.

              Personally that seems like Anarchy.

              • Mario@liberdon.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                9 months ago

                @lud decentralized governance doesn’t mean there won’t be any governance at all. There will still be policing, taxes and social services. The difference is that in governing process we will all participate, not only a herd of politicians which decide the fate of everyone else.

                Take example the Monero system. When there is a network upgrade it can be proposed by anyone on the forum and if everyone agrees it will get implemented. if there are disagreements they will be put on the table.

                • lud@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  So it’s like a normal government…

                  The reason we have politicians is because normal people don’t have the time to spend all their time worrying about politics and decisions. So we delegate the power to a smaller group of people.

                  Some countries delegate more and some less power (like with direct democracy like Switzerland has) but it’s essentially the same.

  • Exolix
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    9 months ago

    It seems to me that the EU is aiming for full control over the movement of money by introducing restrictions where no payment of 1-2k euros will go unnoticed.

    That’s why I believe the future belongs to cryptocurrencies, especially those that support transaction anonymity.

  • AriaVPN
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    We are building a VPN service which collects zero personal data and only accepts crypto, Monero specifically. If anyone would like to try it out and help us improve the project it would be very much appreciated!