Lawmaker: TikTok must "sever relationship with the Chinese Communist Party."

Lawmaker: TikTok must “sever relationship with the Chinese Communist Party.”

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    9·
    8 months ago

    I agree this is happening, but is it because of race or because it’s an easy excuse. You can’t tell the difference.

    things have multiple reasons.

    Like when a forest fire happens, it doesn’t happen ONLY because the weather was dry and ONLY because the weather was hot. It was a combination of both of them.

    Likewise, when anglo-crackers pull this shit, it’s not ONLY because they’re racist, or ONLY because they want to personally control it. It’s because they’re racist AND want control, mostly so they can use it to propagandize people into being more racist.

    Generally, when a certain event happens, it has multiple causes! Single cause phenomena are very rare in organic systems!

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      11·
      8 months ago

      Sure, it has multiple causes. Anyone intillegent is just using race as an excuse. China has an ecosystem almost exclusive to China. Is it because they’re racist or because they want control, or both?

      • spacecadet [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        6·
        8 months ago

        You might be surprised how many “intelligent” people can also be sincerely racist.

        Also, I believe at least one reason people are upset with you here in this thread is because of how hard you are trying to “prove” the innocence of someone being racist, or “prove” the unreality of a system or institution being “truly/authentically” racist, when ultimately the end result is the same: pure racist outcomes. Even if somehow you could prove with full receipts that racism, as you claim, is used as a inauthentic tool for oppression, the energy you are taking up to hound this point is painfully disproportionate and misplaced, if even technically correct at all.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          21·
          8 months ago

          I can’t “prove” anything. However, a whole bunch of people coming into here to tell me how I’m wrong and it has to be racism from a certain two instances is a little hypocritical. They weren’t in this thread much until this, and they all flood in to tell me that I’m wrong, without any reason except “it just is racist.”

          …when ultimately the end result is the same: pure racist outcomes.

          No, the end result is not the same. People recognizing that all of these institutions are doing the same thing allows us to solve issues. However, some of the people here think that the institutions they like, for whatever reason, aren’t doing this. They come here to defend China or attack the US, but China has a firewall and generally has their own exclusive ecosystem. What’s different with the US forcing one app to be western owned? Is China doing it because of racism? No. That’s pretty naive. Thinking this can only lead to outrage at some people and can’t solve the actual issues because the wrong issues are being addressed.

          Even if somehow you could prove with full receipts that racism, as you claim, is used as a inauthentic tool for oppression, the energy you are taking up to hound this point is painfully disproportionate and misplaced, if even technically correct at all.

          Dude, I was here on my home instance and dozens of people show up to tell me I’m wrong from two other instances. I’m putting in too much energy? Why is it never you guys putting in too much energy, or you guys being the “debate bros”. You came at me.