When Al-Qaeda themselves claimed responsibility, even with overwhelming evidence aside? Why were so many people still reluctant, I was researching about this stuff and was shocked to see people who I respect a lot believe in this

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      Some would call them “independent thinkers”

      What’s more admirable, to conform and be right or to think independently and be wrong?

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        I think the weaponization of ignorance is a more nuanced subject than a binary choice.

        There is no merit in pushing significantly disproven ‘theories’ like flat earthism.

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          No doubt. But dang, when they call themself right because they quote the most popular authority, I feel a strong impulse to play it wrong.

          I mean, I’d push flat-eartherism just to highlight the absurdity of the popular epistemology. But that’s generally a pearls-before-swine situation.

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            Funny you mention that, there is a Flat Earth society that was started as a joke with members just arguing for fun.

            They were mostly all replaced by true believers by the late 90s, I got to watch it happen.

            And it plays out the same way in so many ‘ironic stupidity’ forums.

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              The true believers have more zip than the careful contemplators, unfortunately.

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                This is a flaw in human nature that needs to be resolved before we move forward as a species.

                It is no longer a survival benefit to follow loud, angry people.

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                  I dunno man. The ugly sciencey guy is a hard sell. There’s gotta be a third option.

                  Smiling grandfather in nice suit? Sexy fascist lady? Furry?

                  It’s all theater anyway. The mob does not respond to reason.

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                    I think Bill Nye gives us the best template: A kind of sciency guy with a background in media production.

                    The mob doesn’t respond to reason but it loves to be entertained, which is why we need more science communicators.

                    We need a Bob Ross for STEM.