Or it’s the work of Satan, who doesn’t actually have free will, but get to do evil things because otherwise you’d be blaming god for killing a bunch of people. Although, in the one place where Satan is doing things in the bible, it’s god that does all the killing.
god kills Job’s family so that he can brag to Satan about how much Job loves him.
This is always my reply, like, so if this theoretical “sky-daddy” knew everything, and created us, then we were created with the knowledge that our creation would cause untold suffering.
I see 3 possibilities:
there is no god and everything is just random
god is cruel, we are the ants under the proverbial magnifying glass
“god” are actually just aliens and we were “created” as a genetic experiment by other beings that visited earth long ago.
So as someone who read the bible quite a lot when he was still Catholic - Humanity gets knowledge of Good an Evil by eating from the Tree of Knowledge. Before then, there were no evil acts - that’s why it is called the Original Sin.
Like I get what you’re going for but if you’re going to try to parody actual religious claims you should know the basics.
I’m a former catholic, and therefore did not need to read the bible ;). I wasn’t attempting a proper debate with apologetics etc. just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Catholics would actually indeed view this as a facile argument because it has been debated for centuries. It’s still a fair point, ie that an omnipotent god who already knows the outcome of your free will should still make you choose. There are many well-reasoned responses to this, but at the core of it, you must still rely on “faith” rather than anything empirical. I’m what you’d call a “doubting thomas”
God gave humans free will which he apparently doesn’t control. Doesn’t explain natural disasters though. I think they’re meant to test our faith or something? Catholic school was a loooong time ago.
If god created humans, then anything that humans do is technically god’s fault… isn’t it?
Nah, that’s Section 230 where the creator isn’t responsible for what its users do.
Nah, they have that covered with the free will clause.
Or it’s the work of Satan, who doesn’t actually have free will, but get to do evil things because otherwise you’d be blaming god for killing a bunch of people. Although, in the one place where Satan is doing things in the bible, it’s god that does all the killing.
god kills Job’s family so that he can brag to Satan about how much Job loves him.
So God is not omniscient?
Something something mysterious ways.
Like that U2 song.
Now you’re getting into Calvinist territory lol
This is always my reply, like, so if this theoretical “sky-daddy” knew everything, and created us, then we were created with the knowledge that our creation would cause untold suffering.
I see 3 possibilities:
there is no god and everything is just random
god is cruel, we are the ants under the proverbial magnifying glass
“god” are actually just aliens and we were “created” as a genetic experiment by other beings that visited earth long ago.
no no don’t you see that’s a facile argument? sky daddy gave us free will to do evil so we had to choose him because… that is… because there… uhm
Free will to do exactly what he says or go straight to Hell where you will be tortured for eternity.
So as someone who read the bible quite a lot when he was still Catholic - Humanity gets knowledge of Good an Evil by eating from the Tree of Knowledge. Before then, there were no evil acts - that’s why it is called the Original Sin.
Like I get what you’re going for but if you’re going to try to parody actual religious claims you should know the basics.
I’m a former catholic, and therefore did not need to read the bible ;). I wasn’t attempting a proper debate with apologetics etc. just a tongue-in-cheek comment. Catholics would actually indeed view this as a facile argument because it has been debated for centuries. It’s still a fair point, ie that an omnipotent god who already knows the outcome of your free will should still make you choose. There are many well-reasoned responses to this, but at the core of it, you must still rely on “faith” rather than anything empirical. I’m what you’d call a “doubting thomas”
God gave humans free will which he apparently doesn’t control. Doesn’t explain natural disasters though. I think they’re meant to test our faith or something? Catholic school was a loooong time ago.