It feels like the amount of both, divisive posts and ghoulish comments is rising again.

One could argue that the world has a lot of divisive stuff going on and lemmy just talks about it. But the way people post about stuff seems more oot and hateful than it has been in the past.

Not saying it is that but if I wanted to bring the Fediverse down or at least keep my customers from going there, I would sow this stuff as much as I can.

I’m blocking ghouls left right and center atm but if I ever asked a friend to join lemmy, I’d hate to think of what they would see that I dont anymore.

Do we need stronger moderation?

  • Maybe ban politics from c/memes?
  • Become a little more stringent on “dont be a jerk” rules in communities?

One thing that really bothers me is the collapsing “discourse”. Trying to mend fences and keep the conversation between sides going ime leads to nothing but downvotes and shitstorm.

I feel like a little more interaction (instead of intervention, at first) of the moderators would do wonders there.

Thanks for reading this rant. Have a nice day.

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    10 months ago

    Election year in the US and EU while Russia is invading a neighbor and China possibly preparing to do the same. There couldn‘t have been a worse time for LLMs to be so accessible, capable and fairly unregulated. The perfect conditions to make this year the worst for internet content we‘ve ever seen. By a landslide. We will look at the last 10 years and feel nostalgic on how good these years were with their little bot armies, cute clickbait and adorable fake news.

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      10 months ago

      Oh wow. Thats a bleak but very convincing outlook you have painted. Lets pray this doesnt come to pass.

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      10 months ago

      Election year in the US and EU while Russia is invading a neighbor and China possibly preparing to do the same.

      Interesting you don’t mention Israel doing a fucking GENOCIDE and the USA supporting it.

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        They event, while deplorable, doesn’t really generate new bot flow. The same conservative and Russian style bots are already up and running.

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          You don’t think the US and Israel have an online presence pushing propaganda? I’ve noticed some odd voting patterns on some posts relating to the genocide and recent bombings.

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            I never said that. Of course they do. But they’ve always been here.

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              9 months ago

              Israel ramping up their genocide so significantly and a new US military campaign in the Middle East seems like a great reason to increase propaganda activity. I have a feeling it will only continue to get worse as the conflict spreads.

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        No, the US is not supporting genocide.

        When the Jewish people took the motto NEVER AGAIN what, exactly, did you think that meant? Did you think it would mean “oh please, Sir, don’t hurt us please?”

        Hamas, seeking the elimination of the Jews of Israel decided to find out, and used their own population as shields.

        You reap what you sow.

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          Hamas seeks no such thing and your blind acceptance of what is inherently a racist perspective based on Islamophobia is extremely telling.

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            Yeah, it’d be real fucked up if Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, all allied and interconnected Iran-backed terrorist groups, had direct calls for jihad and genocide in their charters and mottos, or founder and leader quotes saying they are glad Israel exists because it saves them the trouble of hunting the Jewish diaspora

            OH WAIT

            THEY DO

            If you want to talk about violence, any level of violence, as a legitimate response to colonialism, especially when it enters the ethnic cleansing stage, fair enough, but don’t pretend they’re not genocidal fuckwits themselves with plenty of proof for their intentions.

            If you want to know why Lemmy is full of pissed off people fighting in the comments it’s because half the people who comment on Lemmy have the fact checking ability of a mentally incapable squirrel and they’ll repeat any damn thing they hear.

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              1. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
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                The leadership explicitly refuses to repudiate the old charter that called for genocide, and has directly said they can’t do that politically, or even call it a replacement.

                It shouldn’t be too hard to figure out why, you sure as hell wouldn’t be pretending you don’t understand why MAGA leaders won’t criticize the Confederacy or the KKK.

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      The cheaper and easier it gets to produce and distribute content online, the more I am convinced that we will need to start requiring people to put something of actual value at stake to let them join a social network. The sad thing is that, aside from simply charging money for access, there is nothing that I see that could be used but not abused by governments or corporations.