there was an update from the admins of lemmy.nsfw where language barriers got in the way and the wrong impression was made, which was quickly addressed by the instance’s other admin as well as edited by its’ original author.

this got people in this instance concerned until the edit was made, however in two threads about it on kbin social the anime PFPs came out to play and the head admin of dataterm was obligated to comment as well

the funniest part is, it really demonstrates the truth of stereotypes about people with anime loli PFPs. at least a couple of the commenters in those threads are going to end up on watchlists.

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          Drawings of some of the most heinous crimes humans commit, and thoughts they have. It’s natural for people to be disgusted by them.

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              I, and many others, find the use of ‘loli’ content in this context to be morally questionable. The key concern is the normalization of such behaviors, which can perpetuate and potentially endorse harmful desires. Moreover, even though it involves drawings, it still fosters an environment that is fundamentally based on the sexualization of underage characters.

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                undefined> The key concern is the normalization of such behaviors, which can perpetuate and potentially endorse harmful desires

                This is the same exact argument that violent video games “normalizes” violence. It was wrong then and it’s wrong here.

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                    Why not? The comparison is identical.

                    People are into things in fantasy that they’re not into in reality. And not everyone who defends victimless activities are into them. I’m not into loli, but it’s fucking fantasy. People fantasize about being raped, that’s a huge fantasy. But that doesn’t mean they want to be raped. And most “loli” anime shit look absolutely nothing like real children. If you want to talk about photo-realistic AI generated porn, ok fine. But seriously, what’s wrong with a “3000 year old dragon” in the body of a child? Can they consent? That’s all that really matters here, consent.

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                    I feel like people minimize video game violence as if it is any less bad then getting off on a drawing. People minimize the violence in games where we glorify killing people and don’t talk about the repercussions of war and the violence - real war with refugees and results of total annihilation like Syria.

                    War is no joke, violence is no joke, and killing people is just as bad as pedophilia - REAL pedophilia. But just like shooting someone in the head in a video game or burning a village down in a video game doesn’t translate to someone in real life wanting to hurt other people, looking at drawings does not mean someone is going to act out on the drawings they see. Fantasies do not equate to hurting others. There are plenty of people out there who have rape fantasies, they may write about it, they may roleplay with their partner, but that does not mean they WANT to be raped or assaulted in real life and it gives no one a license to do that to them against their will. Fantasies are fantasies, that is all they are, and the few sick fucks who act on their fantasies are 100% different from the people who never do.

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                  The sexualization of minors, even in fictional contexts like ‘loli’ content, is where I believe we cross a moral line. Children are a vulnerable and protected group in our society, and any content that even implicitly sexualizes them can contribute to an environment that trivializes or normalizes such exploitation. It’s about maintaining the inviolability and innocence of childhood, a value deeply ingrained in our society.

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                    can contribute to an environment that trivializes or normalizes such exploitation.

                    Explain how. What does this “normalization” look like? What examples are there?

                    It’s about maintaining the inviolability and innocence of childhood, a value deeply ingrained in our society.

                    Yet we’re totally fine showing violence to children? Even violence perpetrated on children, as long as it’s not sexual? Is this also why you don’t support sex ed for children?

                    I just find it really weird that you can’t distinguish fantasy from reality.

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                In case no one got the memo the world is run by pedophiles and human traffickers. Top politicians, entertainment industry, corrupt judges, bankers, the elite. Our entire world is morally questionable. I’m just not going to get worked up over fake children in fake worlds, when there are real children being hurt who need my outrage more.

                As a side note, do video games normalize violence? Because if we are going to use the argument that people looking at drawings normalizes and endorses harmful desires then we really need to have the discussion about video game violence.

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                I would also rather you not glorify blowing anyone up/putting a bullet in someone’s head who resembles a real human being in addition to people not jacking off to someone resembling a child.