• ShroOmeric@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Who is pro-hamas? Hamas never got my money, Israeli money on the other hand… yeah, of that money they’ve got a lot. But do not let facts disturb your ideology ok?

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      11 months ago

      My ideology is that suffering should be minimised. I’d hope we could agree on that.

      At this point be honest - is dragging this war out going to minimise suffering or maximise it?

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        11 months ago

        Good question: ask Israeli leaders who mantain an apartheid state, while financing terrorists. Feel free to post their answer.

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        11 months ago

        First of all fuck Hamas and Israel both, just to get their dickriders to STFU.

        So how do you feel about the Ukrainians?

        Is it all war you want to end or just this particular one?

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        11 months ago

        My ideology is that suffering should be minimised.

        Is that why you side with the perpetuators of the suffering? Or is it just a coincidence that you treat criticism of Israel’s numerous crimes as pro-Hamas rhetoric?

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      11 months ago

      I’m curious though - you think Israel is funding and puppeting Hamas? As an excuse to roll over Gaza?

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        11 months ago

        I think? Major newspapers, including Israeli ones think. From what I’ve read in order to make harder/impossible a path towards a two state solution. Since Israel always aimed at rob all the land and keep the apartheid regime.

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          11 months ago

          Ok so Israel is behind Hamas in your eyes.

          Cool. Then what’s the simple solution to stopping Israel? Hamas surrenders. Boom, no more excuse for war.

          So show you’re serious. Call for the Israeli puppet to surrender

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            11 months ago

            The whattaboutist you’re responding to is referring to this, (archival link because paywall)

            Netanyahu let Qatari money into Gaza to prop up Hamas and divide and conquer Palestine by supporting the PA’s rival in Gaza. Evidently he didn’t think Hamas was willing or capable of what they did on Oct 7. This is one of the reasons he is so incredibly unpopular in Israel right now.

            Hamas is supported by Iran, and they have evidently been using crypto to get funds to them (archival link):

            Iran has long been Hamas’s primary benefactor, with the U.S. putting regular funding from Tehran at roughly $100 million a year. Hamas also has earned income from a global investment portfolio, raised money through charitable organizations, and skimmed off funds from official foreign aid and tax revenues in Gaza.

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              11 months ago

              Whattaboutist? Must be nice to be able to turn on and off your own coscience. At least you can sleep I suuppose.