• NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    19000+ as of 4 days ago, and this is the minimum number since it only includes people Gazan hospitals physically counted.

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      19,000 is the total I’ve seen, but I don’t think there are good figures on civilian vs. combatant deaths. I was assuming a very conservative 2:1, which I saw reported somewhere, but I assume the civilian share is much higher, given that at least 7,000 or more of the dead from Israeli attacks were children.

      In any case the point is that if killing Israeli civilians is wrong then killing dozens of times more Palestinian civilians should also be wrong. It’s a shame that most of the American political leadership doesn’t see it that way and instead wants to send Israel even more weapons with which to murder a vastly disproportionate number of civilians to the losses suffered in Israel.

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        19,000 is the total I’ve seen, but I don’t think there are good figures on civilian vs. combatant deaths. I was assuming a very conservative 2:1, which I saw reported somewhere,

        I think you might be misremembering; that 2:1 is the number for October 7th.

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          Seems like the vast majority of those killed in Gaza are civilians.

          The IDF claims 7k were “terrorists” but of course no proof for that. So far they have said anything from “we have captured/killed a dozen Hamas fighters” to “they are surrendering in hundreds”… but in the former example, a family of 35 members all die and among them is maybe, somewhere in the rubble a single Hamas government official or Hamas errand boy… and the latter, well, we’ve seen the pictures of “hundreds of Hamas fighters surrendering” and they all seemed to be civilians who got tortured.

          I think the IDF could barely kill any militant fighters and that’s why they have no figures or bodies or photographic evidence or any way to verify whom they’ve killed. Add to that, the majority of those people killed in Gaza were in their homes or a refugee camp.