• TWeaK@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    It isn’t the case that nothing happened. That one journalist who was most closely involved in it all got blown up in a car bomb, and all the other interests clamped down and made it harder and mor lethal for other journalists to follow suit. Yay for Israeli and Argentinian zero day exploits, anyone can buy acccess to your phone!!

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        11 months ago

        C’mon Chives, don’t be coy. You know which direction.

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        11 months ago

        They turn, for Just Us (this phrase is not uttered by or for you and me FYI)

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      11 months ago

      I’m happy you have faith left in the system. Someone has to believe the system and unknown and mostly unelected and unaccountable beurocrats are coming to save us and not holding just enough people accountable to placate the masses. If not for this beautiful optimism, who or what would hold us back from taking both individual and collective action in replacing, reforming or ignoring said sytem after all?

      Also, may I recommend that anyone with their senses left intact stop using or trusting Wikipedia a decade or so ago?

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        11 months ago

        I agree reform sounds great! I agree many systems can be improved. Lots of government officials could do with some more accountability.

        I personally still love wikipedia for this kind of high level analysis, but you are welcome to use whatever sources you like!

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          Thanks, friend. I think we agree more than we disagree on the need for change. But I feelbwe do disagree quite a bit on what the best use of time and energy to be effective in achieving that change is. Keep trying your best to get accountability in whatever way seems most likely to succeed for you personally.and of course use whichever sources you prefer, but be very skeptical of them all. I’ll direct my energy toward the same goals but with vastly different methods.

          Anyway, best luck. Onward and upward!

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    11 months ago

    At least Iceland ousted their government at the time after the revelation. Which is why it is up to the collective people to mobilise. A government is only in place so long as the population allows them to. “People get the government they deserve.” After all, there are only thousands of politicians compared to the millions of ordinary citizens.

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    11 months ago

    Amd then they to connect that shit with qanon. Most obvious propaganda ever.

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        11 months ago

        It is pretty far off if you actually stop and think about it for even two seconds instead of just blindly parroting something only because it agrees with your world view.

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            How many people do you want to lump in together? All _______ are evil. Fill in the blank. Feel free to insert racial, gender or sexual preference terms where you had financial ones if the point is lost on you.

            Not sure the words strung together in your handle are meant in jest here.

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              Feel free to insert racial, gender or sexual preference terms where you had financial ones if the point is lost on you.

              But none of those traits are fungible like wealth is.

              You can’t become 10% more black/trans/gay in a crooked scheme like you can with wealth right?

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                11 months ago

                Look if you want to be a bigoted collectivist, be my guest. I am an individualist. I believe we each have free will to choose how to behave and who we are. My possessions do not define me, but they are mine.

                And yes, you can change your gender I’m told. Especially if it is “fluid” and dynamic. You can change the sexual preference of which partners you choose. Edit: the list above is not exhaustive. You can lump people in and collectivise them however you like to make this point. All football players. All teachers. All homeowners (if you prefer somrthing you own to something you do). Don’t be pedantic and play dumb to avoid the topic at hand.

                If you despise wealth, feel free to give it away. But if you think wealth is inherently evil and think I don’t deserve it if I earn it, and that my having it makes ME inherently evil and you’ll lump me in with those others? Then feel free to come try to take it from me. Just don’t be a coward and use the force of the state or police or military or your neighbor or your vote or other parties or things by proxy to do it.

                But this is all a side show to the main topic. If you’re a collectivist, we will never see eye to eye and I passionately disagree with your ideology and will oppose it at every opportunity.

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                  Ha. I post with an explicit request not to be a coward and to face me and my ideas, and some coward casts a downvote anonymously without facing or challenging the ideas in good faith. Too rich.

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      11 months ago

      Thanks for this. Don’t collectivise. Judge people on the content of their character, not the number of digits in their phony fiat ledger account.