Am I the only one who gets bunch of posts from leftist and even communist subs/circlejerks in their feed? It’s kinda weird to see genzedong and similar popping up in hot/rising feed. This just hopefully some of the growing pains of a new platform.
Unfortunately it seems really common for any new social media platform to lean way too hard into wither the far left or right, instead of finding a middle ground where a wider range of political views can coexist.
But hey, if we had to pick one extreme, then far left is a lot better than the far right nazi apps that crop up a lot.
They have been a lot of time here, they were here maybe one or two years before the reddit migration. In that scenery, apart from your own arguments against socialism, we can not oppose to that presence in the fediverse, they have been warm to welcome new people, and they are active part of community. We had to deal everyday with far-right in reddit, give yourself the opportunity to know something different.
One or two years? Communists built Lemmy from scratch dude.
Source: I was there.
I agree, and as other comment mentioned: foss seems to appeal more to the left leaning. It’ll probably get more balanced with time, though not like I want more rightwing circlejerks but that the extremes would get kinda buried under the masses of sane people.
idk about that, both extremes end up with millions dead.
Are we really still “both siding” this?
You have one side stating that the current social and economic systems cause a lot of people to suffer and die in poverty - maybe we could change the those systems so that the world becomes more fair and fewer people suffer.
While the other side basically says: people we don’t like shouldn’t exist. Let’s make their lives more miserable.
And you think those two positions are the same?
Let’s be fair here, they’re probably talking about the properly far extremes. The Nazis and the communists both killed millions and caused a lot of suffering last century. Horseshoe theory and all that.
Obviously the far left you typically encounter online doesn’t tend to be authoritarian-communist-regime levels of far left, but I feel like people are being a little to hostile to the idea that extreme in general are pretty bad things.
We should always be suspicious when someone starts both-sides’ing Nazis and Communists. Only one side was killing Nazis, after all.
Yeah, the capitalist side. The communists just raped and pillaged their way across Hungary and Poland, and then starved out their own people so that they didn’t get gulaged after admitting to comrade commissar that the sorghum harvest was under the target.
And yet events like the Katyn Massacre come to mind.
Yes, war crimes are bad, but you are a sick puppy, or hopefully just very mistaken, if you think that or any other Soviet atrocities puts the USSR on par with Nazi Germany.
Just because I only referenced on item doesn’t mean there aren’t millions more souls attributable to the USSR. The USSR easily cost more lives in Poland than Hitler/Nazi’s did. Not just because of WW2… but because of the mass murder committed for the next 40 years under USSR rule.
I’m first generation American. My grandfather taught me exactly how it was under Communist rule. I’m far from mistaken and have literally dozens of phone numbers I can call to get a first hand account of it all going all the way back to WW2.
How reasonable of you. Critical thinking skills provide a person the ability to hold two competing notions in their head. One does not need to win out for critical thoughts of the other to remain. I get annoyed that everyone wants things to be black and white (e.g. Dems good GOP bad). It’s not that simple and we need to stop trying to reduce it to such polar language. The left also has corruption. The corruption in the left has also lead us to this precise point in history. The democratic party was heavily dishonest with primaries during the last Clinton campaign. They intentionally squashed and targeted other democratic candidates.
I wish we would stop ignoring all the problems just because it doesn’t suit a narrative that one side is good and the other is bad. It’s not that simple. One is absolutely worst than the other, but they both need each other to exist. People need to stop pretending like left shit don’t stink. It does because it is also shit. The left is not at all exempt from corruption. All humans are susceptible to corruption, especially humans in positions of power. Views taken to any extreme are almost always bad.
Is this something you really want to “both sides”? Only one side kills Nazis.
It seems like FOSS apps just appeal more to the far left than any other political group. And that’s coherent with all their other beliefs so it’s only logical. The same thing happens on Mastodon, though it’s less extreme. Could find some accounts of regional branches of the major left-wing party in my country, none center or right-wing.
The simple reality is, left wing views get minimised, distorted or outright censored in standard media like reddit. It’s mostly just false flag stuff on reddit like calling liberals leftists or socialists. The only place to talk freely would be some tiny place in the middle of nowhere like a lemmy instance. Which makes supporting FOSS even more important.
Righties like to cry censorship, but its almost purely when they foam at the mouth and “accidentally” get too abusive, forcing the platform to save face and ban them. Standard corporate media will megaphone right wing views and give them free reign to be open nazis unless they go a step too far as I mentioned before.
Corporate interest IMO favors and spreads the far-right content. The only “big” far-right player I know on this space is Trump’s truth-social (that used Mastodon code to have a fast Twitter clone, and they defederated themselves).
That will be interesting to watch: how much the far-right will appeal and spread in this more-leveled plainfield, without Big Tech help.
I’m going to remove this thread under rule #2. The topic is inherently political and some of the comments are getting rough.
Hi! I’m a dirty communist from a dirty communist instance. Consider that these things aren’t circlejerks, consider instead that generally we have the opinions that we do for a reason and when we discuss things, it might be a good faith discussion but your guard may (possibly for warranted reasons) be up. Please grant us the faith that it’s not a circlejerk. I’m also open to answering any questions that might alleviate your (or anyone else reading’s) notions that we are a circlejerk.
I said I was a capitalist and a 70% tax was absurd - nothing else - and the next three comments direct to me had the most horrific insults and threats of physical violence against me and my family, the server owners removed them. If you’re level-headed and want to debate the merits of each system, you’re by far the exception.
I don’t think the average terminally-online Marxist-Leninist revolutionary larper is representative of all communists.
I myself am a communist, and will gladly discuss these issues, without threats.
Go to 4chan troll.
exploding-heads is this way, and truth social is that way, sir
Let me guess, you are a centrist who leans left on the softball social issues, but conservative in the fiscal ones.
You can change what instance you use to one that defederates with the places you don’t want to participate with. Also, some apps allow you to hide specific instances through a UI option.
I’m not a fan of idea of completely getting cut out from parts of the fediverse because of ideological differences. Imo that just promotes further polarization. Though I might look into blocking couple instances if and when I get annoyed enough lol
Just unsubscribe / block those communities and posters.
I do it for all political content.
Can you give some examples? Different people have very different definitions of leftists, communists etc.
I swapped instances a couple of times because of federation with political instances. Highly recommend it.
I love how that aspect works here. I’d like to see that really improve over time as people spread out.
While I don’t agree with either extremes, I’m much more comfortable with hard left than hard right. Hard left isn’t actively established and trying to foment genocide in real time.
Dude do you have any idea about the maintainers of Lemmy, who are also the admins of lemmy.ml? Do you know why they picked the TLD “ml”? There are just going to be communists using Lemmy, block and move on.
Im seeing this stuff just now. The timing of the posts is the same as the system compromise over the last 8 hours. My instinct says they are related.
The Reddit exodus didn’t help things.
From my understanding, lemmy practically started out heavily left leaning and got progressively more regressive as redditfolk migrated over.
