• Saki
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    10 months ago

    I like to learn different points of view; some of your points are valid. This conversation is indeed meaningless for you, though, if you’re only interested in “winning” as in “I’m correct, they’re wrong. I want to correct them.” 😺

    As for malware, you may agree that the root of the problem is security flaws of the said user or their OS. Even if all the cryptos are banned, such a user (executing random files, blindly believing in Big Tech…) is likely to be exploited and abused; their credit card numbers, passwords, sensitive info being stolen anyway.

    Both you and I know that most of crimes in this world have nothing to do with Monero. On the other hand, quite a few people use Monero for good-will donations too, which would have been otherwise impossible. Surely you don’t want to make a donation to support Country X with transparent KYC BTC if that makes Country Y angry but you might need to visit this scary country for some reason. Maybe it’s like cars, guns, knives, etc. Cars may help criminals run away, without which some crimes would be impossible. Cars may kill a lot of people too. We know that. But we may not outlaw cars, nevertheless. Can we agree that this is actually a difficult problem, with a lot of philosophical ramifications or something like that?

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      The positive utility of crypto so far has been negligible.

      I have to say, it is on-brand for someone glibly promoting this to ignore knock-on effects. OS security used to be so much worse. And yet - viruses at the time were mildly annoying, or simply debilitating in-the-moment. They were a constant hassle. Now they’re a weaponized threat to the government and infrastructure of nation-states. That would not have been possible, without the incentives created by these slapdash implementations of cash you can e-mail.

      They still suck for the purposes people wanted them for. I’ve been into this for a while. I had Beenz. I was a proponent of Bitcoin when you could still mine on a mundane PC. I’ve been explaining fungibility to people since before NFTs came along to illustrate what happens when you fuck it up completely. I’ve seen a thousand places where merely distasteful exchanges force people to use Paypal and then everyone at some point gets shafted by Paypal.

      There are many obvious problems I would like this technology to solve. There are many unexpected problems it has obviously created. Our problems remain unsolved.

      The functionality you’re championing is nice, but not strictly necessary, and plainly insufficient.