No filesystem access for a flatpak app just means it cant read host system files on its own, without user permission. You can still give it files or directories of files through the file explorer for the app to work with, just that it’s much safer since it can only otherwise view files in its sandbox.
[…] aren’t there some folks who want flatpak/snap/appimage to basically replace traditional package managers?
There might be people who think that, but that isn’t realistic. Flatpak is a package manager for user facing apps, mostly gui apps.
The core system apps will still be installed by a system package manager. I.e rpm-ostree on immutable Fedora or transactional-update/zypper on OpenSUSE MicroOS.
Snap can do system apps and user facing apps and fully snap-based Ubuntu might come in the future.
But this won’t force people to use them. Traditional package managers will keep existing for system apps and maintainers will proabably keep their gui packages in the repos.
No filesystem access for a flatpak app just means it cant read host system files on its own, without user permission. You can still give it files or directories of files through the file explorer for the app to work with, just that it’s much safer since it can only otherwise view files in its sandbox.
Which is fine for some apps, try that with an IDE.
Why does an IDE need unfettered access to my whole FS? Access to the project directory, and maybe the runtime directory, have to be enough.
To be fair, the title says more apps, not all apps…
I’ve lived long enough to see Linux users criticizing full file system access and wanting sandboxes
As if sandboxes are some brand new concept…
Of course people want them for some use-cases. No one here is saying that every application in the world should be restricted that way, grandpa.
Yeah things like selinux and apparmor have been around for a long time, sandboxing is just an evolution of that
Maybe not here in this thread, but aren’t there some folks who want flatpak/snap/appimage to basically replace traditional package managers?
Doesn’t make it a prevailing attitude worthy of whatever nonsense that other guy is spouting.
There might be people who think that, but that isn’t realistic. Flatpak is a package manager for user facing apps, mostly gui apps.
The core system apps will still be installed by a system package manager. I.e rpm-ostree on immutable Fedora or transactional-update/zypper on OpenSUSE MicroOS.
Snap can do system apps and user facing apps and fully snap-based Ubuntu might come in the future.
But this won’t force people to use them. Traditional package managers will keep existing for system apps and maintainers will proabably keep their gui packages in the repos.
I never said that. Quite the opposite, I find it amusing that the community that spent years freaking out about sandboxing now loves it.
Nobody was freaking out about sandboxing.
Glad you speak for everybody in the world
Says the person speaking for the whole community.
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Lmao so you saying “the community” isn’t actually you speaking for the community, but when I say “nobody” suddenly I was being literal.
Nice mental gymnastics.
Also nowhere did I say or even imply that I think you don’t like sandboxing… You’re pretty bad at this.