when propaganda meets reality

If you have a better way to soak up billions of dollars of public funding and putting them back in the pockets of the oligarchs, I’d love to hear it.

Indeed, stealth is the main selling point of the platform and if it doesn’t work the whole thing is a joke.

The term authoritarianism is utterly meaningless because all governments rely on coercion to maintain their authority. The state is fundamentally an instrument that’s used by the ruling class to maintain its dominance. The whole notion that political systems can be neatly categorized into authoritarian or democratic binaries is deeply infantile.

The reality is that every government derives its authority from its monopoly on legal violence. The ability to enforce laws, suppress dissent, and maintain order is derived from control over police, military, and judicial systems. Whether a government is labelled authoritarian or democratic, the fundamental basis of its power lies here. Therefore, the only meaningful questions to ask are which class interests it represents, and to what extent can it be held accountable to them.

What ultimately matters is which class controls the institutions of state violence. In capitalist democracies, the government represent the interests of the economic elites who fund political campaigns, own media outlets, and control key industries. Western public lacks the mechanisms necessary to hold the government to account, and the ruling class is disconnected from the broader population. That’s precisely what’s driving political discontent all across western sphere today. Meanwhile, in so-called authoritarian regimes, the ruling party serves the working class as seen in countries like China, Cuba, or Vietnam. Hence why there is widespread public trust in these government and they enjoy broad support from the masses.

Anybody who uses the term authoritarian can be safely dismissed.

The most dronie thing I’ve seen today.

lol it is not my alt

Again, the intent is very clear and indisputable. The only reason it’s not a full on genocide the way it is in Gaza is because Ukraine lacked the means to follow through. Meanwhile, it’s funny how these same genocide experts never condemned the US for making completely unfounded genocide claims against China.

It’s not different from majority of the world, it’s different from 13% of the population in western nations who are using Ukraine to fight a proxy war with Russia. What’s not a good look is pretending what everybody can see is happening isn’t what it is.

radlibs mad

It looks like Turkey and Israel came up with a plot to overrun Syria with insurgents and then start carving it up.

Trying to eradicate culture, use of language, and subjugate a population certainly does meet the intent. The fact that they weren’t able to do it the way Israel is doing in Palestine is entirely due to the fact that LPR and DPR manage to mount effective resistance.

Buddy, they weren’t even hiding it. Here’s Poroshenko saying precisely what the goal was. If you had a shred of integrity you’d be deeply ashamed of trying to white wash this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk

I mean if you can intercept a basic pop rocket how much harder can it be to intercept a hypersonic mirv, it’s the same principle really.

Ukraine promised to implement Minsk and stop ethnic cleansing in Donbas for 8 years. Then western leaders came out and said that the purpose of Minsk agreements was to give Ukraine more time to arm.

Meanwhile, the fact that it was the west who sabotaged the peace deal two months in is a well documented fact

• https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/
• https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/09/03/west-peace-proposal-ukraine-russia/
• https://peoplesdispatch.org/2022/10/25/the-west-must-stop-blocking-negotiations-between-ukraine-and-russia/
• https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms
• even Nuland has now openly admitted this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc

It’s incredible that anybody could be so utterly dishonest to characterize this as helping Ukraine.

One explanation here is that a conscious decision was made to withdraw. People tend to forget that the adversaries of the empire also have agency as well. Russia and Iran aren’t stupid, and they likely saw that the west was going to flare up the conflict in Syria again. One option was to pour resources into Syria to fight off the jihadists. This would be long and protracted quagmire just as it was last time around. The other options was simply to withdraw and let them take it. These groups all hate each other, and they’re not a cohesive fighting force. They’re already starting to fight each other just days after taking over, and it’s only going to get worse. An iron rule is that when something looks too good to be true it usually is.

I love it how people still trot our wikipedia as a source of truth, go read at the sources I’ve provided in this thread

Yeah, the reason being that the west made false promises to Ukraine that led to their destruction as has been the case with every prior western proxy.

Ukraine had independence until the west overthrew their democratically elected government in a violent neofascist coup.

You’re right, Ukraine was just doing some light ethnic cleansing in Donbas that the west was cheering on. At least you lot are consistent in your support for ethnic cleansing and genocide.

already have in this very thread