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  • This whole discussion you see above is part of the process of repeating a study. You can’t just do exactly what the previous study did and expect all the flaws to magically disappear. You need to first uncover the flaws, and more eyes and collaboration means a higher likelihood that the flaws get found, hence the importance of these discussions. Then you redesign the experiment to fix those flaws, and then you can run it again.











  • howrar@lemmy.catoScience Memes@mander.xyzscience never ends
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    2 months ago

    There’s also the “science” that is your policy choices (personal or public policy) based on the science(n) and your values, risk tolerance, and lifestyle. Since the latter factors can change a lot over time, these policies can also fluctuate wildly and give the impression that “science” fluctuates wildly.




  • There’s a few scenarios where I think it’s worthwhile to get into these discussions online. Listed below in order of how much effort I’d put into it.

    • I don’t know enough to hold an opinion or my currently opinion stands on shaky grounds, and I either want the other party to convince me of their position, or use the discussion to flesh out my thoughts and come to a more solid conclusion.
    • The stance I currently hold differs from the other party and I want to understand where we diverge. Do they know something I don’t? Did they consider a variable that I didn’t think about? Did they just start from a different set of “facts” and neither of us have the means of verifying which is correct?
    • I agree with their conclusion but disagree with how they reached it. The intent is to help the other party strengthen their position so that they can go off and preach the good word to everyone else more effectively.

    The last scenario is the only one where I’m actually trying to change someone’s mind. I do recognize that it’s unlikely, which is also why I wouldn’t put much effort into this. For everything else, the exercise of putting your thoughts into coherent words and thinking in new directions is where the value lies. Having the discussion with someone else forces you to consider many things that you wouldn’t otherwise think about on your own.

    Handling hate speech is tangential to promoting logical and well thought out discussions. I believe that this kind of community necessarily has to be homogenous in terms of values, otherwise there’s nothing to discuss. If I want to maximize the number of oranges growing in the orchard and you want to maximize the number apples, then that’s two conflicting goals. If we get into a discussion on how to manage the orchard, it won’t go anywhere because at the end of the day, I don’t care for apples and you don’t care for oranges. There’s no amount of logic that can convince your taste buds to change how they respond.