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This video shows that Reddit refused to delete all comments and posts of its users when they close their account via a CCPA / GDPR request.
This is absolutely insane, and shows that companies OWN you.
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Sign me up for the class action. I was thinking of just spinning up a selenium script because I’ve tried using one of the bots to delete post history before, and it didn’t work, so I was assuming the API was resisting. Disappointing to see that even clicking through everything doesn’t work reliably.
That would be my suggestion as well. There’s a chance that all reddit users will be part of the class, but there’s also a chance that only users who attempted to delete data or request that data be deleted will be part of the class.
Attempt to edit and/or delete a few of your comments at the very least and prepare for the class action lawsuit. It’ll probably take a couple years, but there’s no way that some law firm isn’t already looking into it and gearing up to start the process. There’s a particular law firm that I follow that has gotten some really good settlements from social media companies such as this one against facebook. I would believe that if anyone decides to take on a data privacy issue against a large social media company, it would be them.
I think the only solution currently is to use something like Redact to mass edit your posts and comments to remove the data that you have input into the site. Reddit lives or dies on the information that users post/comment on it.
I personally believe that reddit is the type of company to save the orginal post and revert it just out of spite
i wouldnt put that sort of crap past a pedophile like Spez
This honestly is much worse than twitter, because atleast with twitter, I didnt see them doing this typa shit
The difference is that Musk doesn’t have the knowledge and skill to do it.
I personally doubt that.
Musk might not have his own personal knowledge. But this is violating a law in California in which the person in this video seems to in California.
Plus reddit seems to based in California.
This goes behind being a scumbag, and into the territory of ignoring the CCPA.
This is magnitudes worse than simply being a greedy capitalist.
I personally believe that reddit is the type of company to save the orginal post and revert it just out of spite
They have been reverting them. I’ve been observing it in action my my Reddit account as I delete things. Even old posts that I recall deleting years ago (like random things on r/Hearthstone after I stopped playing Blizzard games) have been making a return over the past month. I’ve been going in and doing batches of edits to my post history every few days, and editing it differently. From ten years ago to now, I’ve had posts re-appearing and the edits getting un-edited.
Wild.
I’ve been going in and doing batches of edits to my post history every few days, and editing it differently. From ten years ago to now, I’ve had posts re-appearing and the edits getting un-edited.
Are you absolutely certain? I just as well might not bother with the mass edit then.
The issue there isn’t that Reddit stores the edit history (that would be too much storage space), but that it doesn’t apply the edit at all and just pretends to if it you recently edited something else. You need to wait after each edit for your next edit to go through.
I had success with this Power Delete Suite fork, which waits for 5 seconds after each edit.
Thanks for letting me know, I’ll give it a shot when I have time. (And edit results here if I remember.)
I tried this using the shreddit CLI app, and they reverted my edits as well as deletions.
Does Reddit save edit history?
Word is that they don’t, deletes are soft-deletes but edits aren’t so reversible.
In this specific case it looks like it might just be that specific sub being private on the day he deleted, https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/99466/Reddit-violates-CCPA#entry-comment-406442
Watching the video i see him deleting from 11 months ago to 12 years ago. But don’t see the specific 3 year old posts on r/javascript. Which would be consistent with not being able to see them due to the sub being private.
When it was open source, they didn’t. But it’s closed source now. So who knows. Reddit says they don’t, but they have lied before, so who knows.
How do you know they don’t keep post revisions too? It’s trivial to implement and probably not much more data.
You don’t
They mentioned shreddit able to delete more using some kind of archive but it’s $15.
Is that the only service to offer that service or are there any free/cheaper options that do the same?
You can use the shreddit cli script from github as it has the same option for free.
So what’s the penalty for violating the CCPA?
BTW CCPA != GDPR. They do similar things but are for different jurisdictions. If they openly break GDPR the EU will basically maul them, I imagine.
The Reddit User Agreement Section 5 clearly states that you own your data:
You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content
So you could try to use that argument to get what you want.
The agreement also continues to say you grant them a license to use this content which can not be taken away. But I would argue that if you decide to remove your content then there is nothing to license away. In other words the license is still there but the content is gone.
Of course that’s just my personal interpretation. Law is a fucked up thing that doesn’t follow any logic. If you’re lucky your country/state might have laws that work on your favour.
Un-deleting deleted comments is certainly sleazy, but I didn’t realize it was illegal.
It depends. If undeleted comments included your personal data, like IP address, home adress or your real name, it certainly is illegal
Is it just me or is there an unethical way to try and entrap reddit here by posting your real name, deleting the post, and seeing what happens?
My name is Giovanni Giorgio.
But everybody calls me Giorgio.
