They’re just pulling it up here, the pumping-into-the-air part happens somewhere else, right?
Yeah, it definitely pisses me off to read people saying that the government isn’t changing the weather.
Climate change is human caused, and every government subsidizing carbon extraction has blood on their hands.
There is a colossal difference between “the government CONTROLS the weather” and “the government participates in climate change”
I’ve seen a great idea of reusing those oil rigs as wind farm platforms.
🖐️🔄 “These aren’t the weather machines you’re looking for”
- big oil, for the last 70 years, fully aware of the consequences of their greed.
Claim them and become your own nation
They are ready to be claimed. Hilarious! I never thought about buying my own personal man made island before. Turns out they are quite readily available.
Some of those cheap ones could be crowd sourced
Which form of government will we choose?
Years ago I was looking at decommissioned missile silos. Opportunities abound!!
Could be turned into a really cool themed ocean side water park
Ok Boss.
And the ones in your garage.
Not to defend cars, but that’s what, 7%* of CO² emissions?
While oil rigs have 100%. Ok, aside the gas rigs.
* fuck localized results by default, i find only results for EU and germany. Mind, the 14% of sector transport includes ship and flight too.
Ah, yes, the old “consumers are the problem” rhetoric when, in actuality, they only account for 10% of emissions.
10% is 10%. I can’t control what the CEO of an oil company does, but I can decide avoid using fossil fuels. (Maybe if enough of us did the same, we actually could influence an oil company.) We each have to do everything we can to reduce CO2. Dismissing something as rhetoric doesn’t help.
While I can respect the idea, pragmatically speaking, it would be too little too late. My 10 percent figure refers to global emissions from personal vehicles globally. In the US, these account for less than 2.5% of global emissions
Like another commenter mentioned, the majority of people (in the US) can’t even afford EVs yet, and many can’t afford environmentally conscious food replacements. If the government provided credits toward EV purchases/subsidized production/expanded public transportation, then it would maybe be possible. But given the current economic climate, it won’t happen, and the rate at which it would change even if the government did wouldn’t be significant enough to have a substantial impact. Not to mention that most of these policies are an attempt to disguise a lack of reform in the industrial/power sectors. The article above does a great job explaining why this sort of rhetoric is purposefully misleading.
I can’t afford an EV, transit is too unreliable to get me to work and housing/rent is too expensive for me to move closer to my work, so how exactly is my fault North American society is built around requiring a car while various social economic factors help reinforce it?
Who’s talking about fault (besides you)? We each have to do as much as we can. Maybe you can help in other ways instead. How about cutting dairy/meat from your diet, then doing the four Rs with everything else?
I’m expressing that many of us are bound to fossil fuels by design and we need bigger more impactful change. I do what I can, i walk to get my grocceries, I rarely buy new clothing, keep my apartment cool in the winter even though I don’t pay the energy bill. Its not even a drop in the bucket compared to millions being spent and made on oil and ensuring we all rely on it.
We made our cars bigger, we made our cities wider and less dense and we told everyone to drive everywhere. Buy everything wrapped in plastic, don’t worry it’s totally recycleable (but not really). No one can afford housing because multi unit housing doesn’t exist in the vast majority of neighbourhoods, unless it was a big house renovated into apartments. Multi units are often more energy effecient compared to the same number of SFH, they loose less heat during winter due the shared walls. They are also denser which can support walkability and transit better than traditional suburbs.
We are beyond the points of individual change being meaningful. We need broad solutions from individuals, communities, nations and everything in between. Building a denser, more walkable society will naturally lower many people’s oil and energy consumption while also preserving land.
We need both. Throwing up our hands and saying it’s the corporations’ fault is too easy an excuse for not doing everything we each can. AND living in a bubble thinking that recycling my plastic bottle will be enough, is not enough.
I can’t control the infrastructure that requires me to drive a car.
Pretty sure it’s “Fuck Cars” rhetoric
But it’s also a 10% over which in western world we have quite a lot of control. You can vote for local governments that want to expand public transport. You can demand more bike paths and pedestrian friendly infrastructure in your neighborhood. There are multiple examples around the world (even in the USA) of communities or even whole cities significantly reducing car-centrism over several years.
It’s wrong to blame people for using plastic packaging when there’s no feasible alternative. It’s wrong to force people to go beyond their comfort by using less electricity or heating because governments didn’t transform the energy sources.
But each gram of CO2 matters and when reducing emissions doesn’t require much effort or sacrifices (like voting) then we all absolutely should do our part.
That 10% created a demand that caused the 60% to happen. To decrease or even eliminate that 60%, the 10% have to change their behaviour as well, even after decades of being indoctrinated.
Not even remotely true. Most emissions are caused by factors completely indepedent from consumer vehicles. Nearly 60 percent comes from power generation, industrial processes, and goods transportation (Not to be confused with personal vehicle use)
the ones used to haul people - I have no issue with. of course they must be replaced but in the great grand scale of things, they’re at least hauling people to schools and jobs.
the assholes who look at internal combustion as their personality - the f1s, the nascar types, the tuner heads and vroom vroom fuckwits - they’re doing it for FUN.
FUCK THOSE PEOPLE THE MOST. FUCK THEM EIGHT WAYS FROM SUNDAY. THEY’RE DERIVING THEIR ENTERTAINMENT FROM MAKING IT HARDER FOR CHILDREN TO BREATH. THEY DON’T EVEN FUCKING CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN CHILDREN, BECAUSE THAT’S WHO’S GOING TO PAY THE PRICE FOR THEIR ABSURD BULLSHIT.
Of course replace ICE wherever possible, do the work, but I ain’t angry at some lady hauling her kids around in an ICE kia.
The fuckwit who’s modified their carb so they spew more freedom smog - and the ones who want to watch them race in circles at full tilt - they’re holding the species back. Please, remind them of this whenever you see them. They’re fucking us all over.
I think there’s a MASSIVE difference between Formula/GT/Rally guys and guys who roll coal. True racing cars count for less than 1% of global emissions. The real problem is all the flights and transport necessary to get to the venues. The vehicles themselves are a blip on the radar.
Guys who roll coal are deliberately harming the environment for the sake of making a really stupid point.
Guys who roll coal are deliberately harming the environment for the sake of making a really stupid point.
I don’t disagree but it doesn’t let f1/nascar/etc off the hook. their ‘hobby’ is racing in circles burning gas.
Let me type that again, because the absurdity is powerful:
THEIR HOBBY IS RACING IN CIRCLES BURNING GAS.
work it out mate.
