• Kelly Aster 🏳️‍⚧️@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Check out how news orgs are covering this story.

    Associated Press: “Milwaukee hotel employees fired after death of Black man who was pinned to the ground”

    NBC: “Video shows Black man being pinned down by Milwaukee hotel security shortly before death”

    CBS: “Milwaukee hotel workers fired after death of Black man pinned down outside”

    ABC: “Al Sharpton to deliver eulogy for Black man who died after being held down by Milwaukee hotel guards”

    CNN: “A Black man died after he was pinned to the ground by security guards at a Milwaukee hotel. Now his family wants answers”

    Fox 6 Milwaukee: “Hyatt Regency Milwaukee death; man’s family gathers outside hotel”

    Fox News: “”

    These are the earliest stories posted by each outlet that I could find. The headlines speak volumes. The local Fox affiliate omits the fact that the man was black in the headline, and Fox News has yet to acknowledge it even happened, which was 12 days ago (June 30). I’m sure they’ll get around to it, though.

    • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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      2 months ago

      Why does it matter that the guy was black?

      How about something like:

      Hotel guards kill father of two, holding him down while he cries for help.

      • Annoyed_🦀 🏅@monyet.cc
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        2 months ago

        “White folks don’t get in disturbances in Milwaukee?” Sharpton said during the funeral. “Do y’all throw white folks to the ground and put your knee on their neck? The sentence for disturbance is death?”

        This is the reason.

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          2 months ago

          I’m not trolling, I read the article and a few things stood out.

          This guy has two kids, I have 3 at similar ages, he has a family that loved him. The article states he had some mental health issues, but doesn’t go into how severe (I assume low level, otherwise it would have stated it). It says that he was unarmed, you know what American gun culture fucks up to many things for you, this shouldn’t even be a point of note.

          The least interesting thing about a murder victim should be their race. Would it make any difference if he was Chinese, Indian or Samoan? A man was killed, his kids will miss him, is family will morn him.

          As for

          You know exactly why it matters.

          I have an idea why you think it matters, I know why I think it doesn’t. If this was a race based killing, that can be taken into account at sentencing.

            • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz
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              2 months ago

              I know I shouldn’t engage.

              But how exactly is it racist, to be concerned with the fact that a murder occurred. I don’t find murder a political issue.

              Why do you think murder is political?

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        2 months ago

        Probably because it might have been a hate crime and might have done it for hate reasons, and maybe they will do it again unless they are held accountable. That would be my guess.

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          2 months ago

          Shouldn’t they be held accountable for killing a human?

          I thought murder was bad, as a general rule.

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            2 months ago

            Murder once is bad, yeah, of course. You know what’s worse than one murder? Multiple murders, because the person wasn’t stopped.

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                2 months ago

                let’s pretend statistics don’t exist because the reality of their implications makes me uncomfortable.

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              2 months ago

              Agreed.

              Have the two men in this instance killed before? I didn’t get that from the article.

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                2 months ago

                Cops keep murdering people, the same people too, the same evil fucks killing under the same pretenses. There’s a fucking tendency to kill certain people, wake up

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    2 months ago

    Sorry guys, rent-a-cops don’t get the same murder privileges. Imagine going to prison for a hotel chain.

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        i wouldn’t say a lot. you’d be amazed how massive the private security industry is. it’s mostly shit jobs that pay pile 15/hr for you to watch cameras and occasionally scan little wall dots to prove you walked down a hall.

        my old roommate did this kind of security for a different building in Milwaukee. none of his coworkers were cops, nor were they trained in any meaningful way.

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          I knew a guy who had masters degree in philosophy that worked as a security guard. Turns out that the job market isn’t great for philosophers.

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            I’m surprised he didn’t get a marketing or communications job, philosophy is a no brainer in those fields. I guess it depends on the undergraduate degree too.

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        2 months ago

        Off duty cops get a waaaay higher wage than regular security guards. Most security guards are paid around $14-$20 an hour from what I’ve seen in my state.

        A lot of companies are too cheap to pay for the off duty cops.