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In general it’s crazy how people view each other as basically ‘non-human’ entities while driving.
It’s not just cyclists, drivers do it to each other and people on motorbikes.
I never experience that when cycling in Europe, only in the UK but then Europeans don’t have that culture war bullshit of “the war on motorists” that’s leaned into heavily by the right wing press.
I think its only drivers. Cyclists are usually respectful about not running over others.
Cyclists can most certainly go into a blind rage as well, acting like drivers aren’t people.
I cycle myself and there are 100% times it’s warranted, but let’s stop with the idea that cyclists are enlightened beings that can never do wrong.
Some people cycle around and break the rules of the road like idiots, and put themselves in danger at times.
Cyclists can most certainly go into a blind rage as well, acting like drivers aren’t people.
Acting like drivers aren’t people. Not other cyclists, not pedestrians, just drivers.
In other words, once again, the fundamental cause of the problem is the cars.
A big part of that problem could be solved by properly seperating bikes from cars and allowing as little points of conflict as possible. Then at least car ragers are surrounded by just cars which have some protection for their occupants, and cyclists are surrounded by other cyclists which can hopefully leave the area of a rager. Id still rather someone ram me with a bicycle than a car.
@li10 @mondoman712 All the driving video games made driving feel like playing a video game. I grew up playing games like Simpsons Road Rage and Crazy Taxi because I wasn’t allowed to have first person shooter games. All that did was normalize violence of a kind a kid raised by middle class suburban liberals was a lot more likely to commit.
Even if I’m just out for a walk, on side residential roads with no sidewalks but no traffic, people will swerve toward you instead of around you. At an intersection by the interstate and a Greenaway, I get cussed out about twice a month while crossing on the pedestrian signal cause it holds them up for 10 seconds I guess.
On a scooter, drivers flat out play chicken and try to spook you into wrecking.
“accident”… Like just a little woops a daisy
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Gotta have at lease a little bit of victim blaming
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Never gonna get safe roads for cycling if nobody cycles. Its an unfortunate chicken/egg problem
Driving a car is a license to kill… Same with the gun.
Somehow these two things remove any personal responsibility from the perps.
There is a lesson in there about race btw
If that’s the case, I dunno from which third world hellhole you come from. In civilized countries, you’re facing big boy penalties if you injure someone while driving.
In Germany we say “If you want to murder someone, do it with a car”. It’s infuriating how car drivers get away with it or get incredibly light sentences for maiming or killing people by using a car here.
Aren’t car drivers dying at a higher rate tho? I mean we don’t care because the society accepts high risk for the convenience.
Its the same reason you have a shitty password on your phone.
This whole community is about reducing the overall dependance on cars and changing the rules around them. No one here is advocating for more driver deaths, we are advocationg for safer streets that reduce deaths everywhere, drivers, cyclists, pedestrians, kids walking to school, we all deserve safe streets.
There is no convenience in car dependency. It’s a pathetic, unhealthy, wasteful lifestyle.
People accept being murdered by cars because we’re raised in a death cult that’s literally destroying the planet so a few rich bros can have yachts.
