• ItsAFake@lemmus.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    8 months ago

    Canadian researchers have found that men who hold virulent misogynistic opinions against women are more likely to express interest in having sex with robots

    Wait, so the people more likely to want to control a woman are interested in a woman you can control…

    Man how do you become a researcher, seems like an easy gig.

    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      8 months ago

      The ‘this is plausible’ is actually the first 0.01% of research, finding out whether the plausible explanation actually holds water statistically (or whatever) and making sure no sort of bias goes into your results is the part that’s hard

    • Zachariah@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      I think it’s more like:

      Men who think of women as objects are more interested in objects as women.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        You could also interpret this as “men who hate women are more likely to want to replace women”

        We can’t know to what degree each dimension holds unless we do more experiments, but at that point how much do we really care?

        • Kaboom@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          8 months ago

          Well, if you wanted to do therapy programs, that kind of information would be helpful.

          • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            Sure. There’s only so much grant money to go around, though…

            This is the part where I’m not actually a researcher, but I wonder if taking robots out of it would help. The fundamental question is what misogynists want: to control women, replace women, or be neutral to women as they aren’t considered fully human anyway.

            • Kaboom@reddthat.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              8 months ago

              Tbh, just isolate them from society. Not forcibly, if they havent committed a crime, but like just some island or something.

              Hell, I bet a lot of them would be persuaded by some macho advertising.

              Easiest solution in my mind.

              • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                8 months ago

                I wonder if anyone’s made a secular monastery. The problem, of course, is that self-confinement only works for the ones that really mean it. If I had to guess, most misogynists are actually in the control category, and most of the loud MGTOW kind are more interested in conflict itself than what they’re actually talking about, so that doesn’t leave many potential monks.

                • Kaboom@reddthat.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  It doesnt have to be all or nothing. A dozen incels gone is a dozen incels gone.

    • acastcandream@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      You can’t just make those kind of statements with authority/any degree of certainty if you don’t actually test it. It’s generously described as a theory otherwise. You still need studies to prove things you think you know.

  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Surely this is a good thing right? Le them take out their urges on someone/thing who cant actually be hurt.

    We may even see therapeutic sex robots some day.

  • eatthecake@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    I’m a little annoyed by calling it ‘sex with robots’. It’s really just masturbation with an elaborate sex toy. Unsurprising result anyway.

    • Exocrinous@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Well, if I was gonna have sex with a robot I’d want it to be at least as smart as a human adult. A purely preprogrammed experience sounds like no fun at all, and if it has intelligence comparable with any member of the animal kingdom that member better be human or I’m gonna feel really weird.

  • wahming@monyet.cc
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    What definitions are they using for ‘having sex’ as opposed to ‘masturbating’? Does their definition consider fleshlights as sex or masturbation? Is it really any surprise that incels would prefer to masturbate instead of have a sexual relationship with women? The methodology seems questionable at best.

  • Amerikan Pharaoh@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    For the study, researchers analyzed data from 212 undergraduate Canadian students from an unnamed university.

    Sample size sounds way too small to be throwing around “virulent misogyny” to me. For me, a sex robot sounds like two steps away from a more advanced fleshlight. In an economy where I’m not getting paid enough to have off time I could be cruising or dating with, and in an economy where I’m already spending MOST OF MY HOURS AWAKE toiling for capitalist pigs, plooking a robot sounds no different from rubbing one out with more steps; especially when the robot in question can’t spontaneously pop out a kid that’s gonna cost me a million dollars over the course of 18 years.