• Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Sucks to be on the wrong side of history. No one wants to loose their communities, property or livelihoods. However the Jews had a claim to the area going back thousands of years and they needed to go somewhere.

          There were many Jewish communities across the Middle East prior to the 1940s that no longer exist anymore either. I wonder who pushed them out… do they get the same sentiment from your bleeding heart?

          There have been two state solutions on the table with Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital on the table multiple times. Palestinians turned every one of them down. Instead of building their own state they will be further pushed out of Gaza. Where they go is anyones guess no one wants them, especially other Muslim states.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution

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            10 months ago

            That’s funny that you think you’re on the right side of history for supporting a genocidal ethnostate.

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              I guess we’ll see in 50 years which nation still exists.

              Looks at all of Palestine’s immediate neighbors in the Middle East who won’t even lift a finger to even admit refugees.

              I think I know where I’ll put my money.

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                Might makes right, huh? I already know Palestine will be completely ethnically cleansed and then israel will move onto taking parts of Syria and other countries in their goal of lebensraum. That doesn’t mean it’s morally right.

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                  You either didn’t read my comment from earlier in the thread or you enjoy trying to frame an argument.

                  I’ll post it below for you to read and educate yourself.

                  There have been two state solutions on the table with Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital on the table multiple times. Palestinians turned every one of them down. Instead of building their own state they will be further pushed out of Gaza. Where they go is anyones guess no one wants them, especially other Muslim states.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution

                  TLDR: Palestine will be wiped of the map unless they choose a different path. Israel isn’t going anywhere.

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              10 months ago

              What’s the ethnic makeup of Israel? What’s the ethnic makeup of Palestine? Which one is closer to the definition of an ethno state? Do words not mean anything to you?

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                You’re granted citizenship automatically if you’re Jewish and you get a free trip to go there. Being Jewish grants one special privileges. The country is based entirely on ethnicity and was established with that as a core principle. If it’s not technically considered an ethnostate, it’s about the closest that a country can be one without being one in that case.

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          10 months ago

          Wow that is some amazing mental gymnastics there. I sure do hope you don’t strain yourself with all those logical fallacies you are jumping through.

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    Bro I’ll be real with you north Korea got fucking obliterated to the extent that they were living underground because every single building has been bombed to rubble. North Korea was definitely the victim of imperialist interference. No person in that country deserved that level of devastation.

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      A total of 635,000 tons of bombs, including 32,557 tons of napalm, were dropped on Korea. By comparison, the U.S. dropped 1.6 million tons in the European theater and 500,000 tons in the Pacific theater during all of World War II (including 160,000 on Japan).

      …yea.

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        Also consider the fact that north Korea is roughly the size of Maine and Japan is roughly the size of the east coast.