• corus_kt@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Given the history of the land and amount of casualties, I’d be generous to Israel to even attribute 50% of the fault to Hamas, but I’d like to hear why you believe they are at fault for 90% of it? Got no stakes here outside of the humanitarian crisis, just want to understand better.

        • 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          They are the ones benefitting from civilian casualties as opposed to Israel. They are the ones shooting from civilian infrastructure and holding their own women and children hostage. So as far as I’m concerned Hamas is getting them killed, either deliberately or because they simply don’t care.

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          10 months ago

          If invincible was throwing women and children at omniman instead of him crushing them in the subway your comparison would somewhat stick.

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            10 months ago

            Gaza didn’t do that. Hamas did that. And now Gaza is being bombed to smithereens. My comparison sticks. “Why did you make me do this” is such a common thing to hear from narcissists who take no responsibility for their own actions. The IDF do not need to respond to violence with more violence, and nobody is making them. The appropriate and honorable reaction would be to set up the rigorous spy network they should have had from the get-go, and capture and prosecute the actual people of Hamas who assaulted them, not bomb the everloving shit out of Gaza.

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              What incentive would they have to hold back? The propaganda war was pretty much lost for Isreal after multiple disinformation stories were uncritically amplified by western media. The people who hate them won’t change their mind if they stop. Hamas clearly has to go and what you’re describing might make for a good spy novel but would be a shitty military tactic. What they are doing isn’t pretty but probably necessary and easily justified.

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                You make two pretty bad assertions here bud. First, there’s no incentive. That’s the point. It’s kind of a big part of self-governing. Like when somebody puts a grocery cart away instead of leaving it in the parking lot, except where this example is ultimately of no consequence, not killing innocent people is the baseline.

                Second, military tactic my ass. I’m not talking about military tactics, I’m talking about ways to punish Hamas. There’s a lot of ways to do it, and this GENOCIDE is THE wrong way to do it.

                Journey before destination, be better. End of.

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                  This is the whitest take I ever read in my entire life and it shows that you know nothing about warfare whatsoever. There’s a tangible military goal: Dismantling Hamas. They want to keep fighting and hide behind meat shields which makes them exceptional cowards, even for terrorists. So yeah, stop guzzling the cum of people who would gladly slice your throat for being an infidel. Or don’t I don’t care and neither does Israel.

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          10 months ago

          I see no problem with limiting my being in lemmy to 10 minutes a day, I comment when I feel like it. Troll? Only when it comes to shitposting. This is not the case.

          Last I checked I was not the one supporting aid stealing, gay beheading, murderers and rapists. Once you open your eyes to what’s really happening, you’d see the way to support the Palestinians (really) is to remove hamas and give them actual hopes for the future.

          This would also require to stop the education system where they are basically brainwashed that killing Jews is the way to go. Check it out, fun stuff. Israel left gaza in 2005 and they could have built a productive and peaceful country. The only export they had was flying metal pipes and death to all those around them. And before your write “But mah blockade”, it wasn’t imposed before 2007.

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            10 months ago

            On a side note - I truly wish for more peaceful days, where the Palestinians could also live in peace. But that cannot happen as long as they wish for my death.

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    10 months ago

    I’m fucking begging to learn that

    1. The UN or ICC or whoever are not the world police.

    2. They haven’t made and actual decision on the case yet, so what they can do at this stage is very limited.

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      The UN or ICC or whoever are not the world police.

      They are supposed to be, though, and would be if the Big 5 on the security council would let them.

      what they can do at this stage is very limited.

      Especially since they’re hamstrung by the dogged US government insistence that everyone’s eyes and ears have been lying about Israel for the past 75 years.